[uncensored-r/Bitcoin] What the heck is a tag? Binance states that not only the address but a “tag” must accompany or I ...
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12-30 14:42 - 'What the heck is a tag? Binance states that not only the address but a “tag” must accompany or I could lose forever?' (self.Bitcoin) by /u/N2Crypt removed from /r/Bitcoin within 100-110min
A word of caution about exchanges, privacy and your permanent history on the blockchain
I had an account restricted on a major exchange this year and it's not a pleasant experience. Just wanted to share my experience, since I see so many have been through something similar in several exchange-related subreddits. My case happened at Bittrex but I think it's important to note that this may happen on any exchange, not just Bittrex. People are depositing way too much trust in these exchanges and it may come back to bite them. Here's my experience as honestly as I'm able to put it. Bittrex is technically great, contrary to what many say the system just works. Works great in fact, fast and very few glitches in many many years. I think I must've been a very early customer back when things were very informal and until 2020 I had absolutely zero problems with Bittrex. I always thought they were above the pack when it came to system security design and reliability. Despite joining when it was very early, I did full KYC and had the top tier withdrawal limit even though KYC wasn't obligatory back when I joined. I did it all formally because I wanted to have a sort of bank account I could trust, I didn't want to be jumping from exchange to exchange like some crypto traders did. I never used as much as 0.01% of this withdrawal limit, I'm small fish but it was nice to know I could move tons of BTC like the whales if I ever needed to. So I sent them all my real data, work address and so forth. Then Bittrex got moved out of USA and into some country, don't know where. Which was fine by me, I thought it was the same people behind it, doing some formality. Then one day a person with a drawing for a profile pic and some strange username decides to contact me out of nowhere using the Bittrex tech support interface. They know everything about me, but I don't know anything about them. No contact info visible, nothing. This support person sends you a statement you must sign and then based on that they begin to ask for specific documents. I wanted to keep my relationship with Bittrex, so I filled signed and returned it. Then they dived into each item in the thing requesting more documents based on each. So if you said you previously worked for ACME, they'll ask to see ACME related stuff. I said I bought Bitcoin using Bank X, so they wanted to see Bank X statements. And so on. They begin to dig into each specific item you inform. Then it downed on me that maybe I was under some formal audit, in which case I'd have the right to know so I could hire an accountant or lawyer. So I politely asked. They don't tell you anything. You don't even know who the person is on the other side, there is no identification at all of who's contacting you. You're sending all your personal informations to someone who, as far as you know, could be a cat or a dog typing on a random keyboard. So I then asked them why so much detail was needed, since I'd provided lots already. They ignore and just say thank you for your cooperation and proceded to ask for more stuff. I said fine let's do this and went along. Then they asked for specific crypto addresses for the tokens I'd used in the past. Like the address of whoever sent me some XXXX token years ago. I then thought hey man this is too much, do you need me to fax or mail you my ID or something, I'd do it but whatever I enter in there could spell trouble for me. For example, if some guy whose ETH address did something nasty, but coincidentally paid me years ago using that same address, if I gave them my address from the past, in those several years it could mean this person is now a wanted criminal and it'd spell trouble for me, who knows what the person did afterwards, then my account would be forever linked to that rogue address. I began to reflect on this and thought wait, this is not good, I could put myself into a 'bad address' database for no reason. Then I told them I would not send the crypto addresses. They said thanks let's continue the process. It felt weird overall, it just keeps going and demanding more information. I then asked for someone to speak to or somewhere physical I could go to, to talk and show that I'm a real person, they never reply anything, they just ask for more. So I finally gave up and stopped replying and they apparently restricted my account or something. I'll have to go back and reopen the ticket and request account reactivation but then they'll probably restart the same process again. I'm not really that much of a fan of crypto these days, so I'm thinking maybe it's time to call it quits. The reason I'm writing this is to let everyone know that whatever you do in crypto gets forever linked to you. You begin thinking it's some informal thing and that there's some freedom but there really isn't. You may fool around with crypto but then someone is recording everything and will demand you make everything formal in the future. When I joined Bittrex everything was more informal in crypto, even shapeshift and others allowed you to trade crypto with no ID at all, 100% anonymous. Heck even faucets gave out free Bitcoin back in the day. Then all of a sudden everything you do in these exchanges will be audited and you'll need to provide formal documents for everything you did in the past 10 years. Some anonymous operator (this isn't specific to Bittrex, all of them do it that way) with no office has all your info but you know nothing about them in return. You don't even know where these exchanges are located at all. I saw a Facebook post about Binance not even having a formal country, they're "all over t he place". Sure that sounds cool but...who do you turn to when they demand legal stuff from you? Someone out there has all your financial information but you have nothing, you have no security, no legal protection, nothing and they have everything. So, be careful. This isn't all specific to Bittrex, any exchange can and probably will do the same. Point is crypto is a formal thing and will spell trouble for you in the future. Especially since blockchain analysis is way too primitive still, your addresses could somehow end up in a bad neightborhood. The pandemic kinda reminded me of blockchain transactions, you may end up infected because you have no way to know what others have been doing while you were doing everything right.
I applied price discovery algorithms to 5 Min OHLCV data from Bitmex and CME contracts and Bitstamp, Coinbase, HitBTC, Kraken, Poloniex, Binance, and OkEx BTCUSD/BTCUSDT markets from March 2016 to May 2020. Some exciting results I got was:
Before the 2017/18 bull run, Bitfinex dominated the price discovery process. They started the run. But as the price increased, trades on other exchanges, Binance and Bitstamp played a more dominant role in leading the price up.
Since then, CME Contracts and Bitmex contracts have had an increasing role in price discovery. Today Bitmex and CME Contracts play the most substantial role in determining the direction of Bitcoin price.
In 2020, market dominance by Bitmex has been negatively correlated with price. Dominance by Bitfinex, Huobi and OkCoin has had high positive correlation with price.
Price discovery is the overall process of setting the price of an asset. Price discovery algorithms identify the leader exchanges whose traders define the price. Two approaches are most famous for use in Price Discovery. Gonzalo and Granger (1995) and Hasbrouck (1995). But they assume random walk, and a common efficient price. I do not feel comfortable assuming random walk and common efficient price in Bitcoin Markets. So I used this little know method by De Blasis (2019) for this analysis. This work assumes that "the fastest price to reflect new information releases a price signal to the other slower price series." I thought this was valid in our market. It uses Markov Chains to measure Price Discovery. Without going into the mathematical details the summary steps used was:
Data is first grouped into a daily interval. Then inside each daily interval's 5-minute candles, the change in prices between the current time t and previous time t-1 is calculated. The difference across the same time t across all exchanges in a given day is juxtaposed to create an initial matrix.
The initial matrix is used to create a Transition Matrix, which measures the probability of price changing to something else at time t+1 for its state at t.
Then other Markov Chain based algorithms are used to measure the influence an exchange at time t had over all other exchanges' price movement at time t+1 individually.
Reduction and normalization is done to this data. In the end, each exchange receives a single number that sums to 1 for a given day.
De Blasis (2019) names this number Price Leadership Share (PLS). High PLS indicates a large role in price discovery. As the sum of the numbers is 1, they can be looked at as a percentage contribution. I recommend reading the original paper if you are interested to know more about the mathematical detail.
Andersen (2000) argues that 5 Minute window provides the best trade-off between getting enough data and avoiding noise. In one of the first work on Bitcoin's Price Discovery, Brandvold et al. 2015 had used 5M window. So I obtained 5M OHLCV data using the following sources:
Poloniex, Bitfinex, Binance and HitBTC: Exchange's API through CCXT.
CME: Okay, this was was supposed to be tricky and expensive. I broke a TOS and scraped the data for free, removing the expensive part from the equation. I will not go into detail about where I scraped this data.
Futures data are different from other data because multiple futures contract trades at the same time. I formed a single data from the multiple time series by selecting the nearest contract until it was three days from expiration. I used the next contract when the contract was three days from expiration. This approach was advocated by Booth et al ( 1999 )
I can't embed the chart on reddit so open this https://warproxxx.github.io/static/price_discovery.html In the figure above, each colored line shows the total influence the exchange had towards the discovery of Bitcoin Price on that day. Its axis is on the left. The black line shows a moving average of the bitcoin price at the close in Bitfinex for comparison. The chart was created by plotting the EMA of price and dominance with a smoothing factor of 0.1. This was done to eliminate the noise. Let's start looking from the beginning. We start with a slight Bitfinex dominance at the start. When the price starts going up, Bitfinex's influence does too. This was the time large Tether printing was attributed to the rise of price by many individuals. But Bitfinex's influence wanes down as the price starts rising (remember that the chart is an exponential moving average. Its a lagging indicator). Afterward, exchanges like Binance and Bitstamp increase their role, and there isn't any single leader in the run. So although Bitfinex may have been responsible for the initial pump trades on other exchanges were responsible for the later rally. CME contracts were added to our analysis in February 2018. Initially, they don't have much influence. On a similar work Alexandar and Heck (2019) noted that initially CBOE contracts had more influence. CBOE later delisted Bitcoin futures so I couldn't get that data. Overall, Bitmex and CME contracts have been averaging around 50% of the role in price discovery. To make the dominance clear, look at this chart where I add Bitmex Futures and Perp contract's dominance figure to create a single dominance index. There bitmex leads 936 of the total 1334 days (Bitfinex leads 298 days and coinbase and binance get 64 and 6 days). That is a lot. One possible reason for this might be Bitmex's low trading fee. Bitmex has a very generous -0.025% maker fee and price discovery tend to occur primarily in the market with smaller trading costs (Booth et al, 1999). It may also be because our market is mature. In mature markets, futures lead the price discovery.
Table 1: Days Lead
Out of 1334 days in the analysis, Bitmex futures leads the discovery in 571 days or nearly 43% of the duration. Bitfinex leads for 501 days. Bitfinex's high number is due to its extreme dominance in the early days.
Table 2: Correlation between the close price and Exchange's dominance index
Binance, Huobi, CME, and OkCoin had the most significant correlation with the close price. Bitmex, Coinbase, Bitfinex, and Bitstamp's dominance were negatively correlated. This was very interesting. To know more, I captured a yearwise correlation.
Table 3: Yearwise Correlation between the close price and Exchange's dominance index Price movement is pretty complicated. If one factor, like a dominant exchange, could explain it, everyone would be making money trading. With this disclaimer out of the way, let us try to make some conclusions. This year Bitfinex, Huobi, and OkEx, Tether based exchanges, discovery power have shown a high correlation with the close price. This means that when the traders there become successful, price rises. When the traders there are failing, Bitmex traders dominate and then the price is falling. I found this interesting as I have been seeing the OkEx whale who has been preceding price rises in this sub. I leave the interpretation of other past years to the reader.
My analysis does not include market data for other derivative exchanges like Huobi, OkEx, Binance, and Deribit. So, all future market's influence may be going to Bitmex. I did not add their data because they started having an impact recently. A more fair assessment may be to conclude this as the new power of derivative markets instead of attributing it as the power of Bitmex. But Bitmex has dominated futures volume most of the time (until recently). And they brought the concept of perpetual swaps.
There is a lot in this data. If you are making a trading algo think there is some edge here. Someday I will backtest some trading logic based on this data. Then I will have more info and might write more. But, this analysis was enough for to shift my focus from a Bitfinex based trading algorithm to a Bitmex based one. It has been giving me good results. If you have any good ideas that you want me to write about or discuss further please comment. If there is enough interest in this measurement, I can setup a live interface that provides the live value.
You made it! :) First up, SORRY! This has been a late post, I have my reasons don't question them (if you must know I'll be posting in the discord - one time only haha). Secondly, I am sure you can agree with me when I say "Wow!" What an incredible week it has been. Last week I thought it was going to take a couple more weeks for more moving price action when it had only taken a few days which has seen Bitcoin reach and pass the $10,000 region. We have also seen the total Market cap for cryptocurrencies increase from about 280B to over 300B (308B at time of writing) within just a few days. A huge injection of liquidity, about 40B, into the market and just to name a few of the best rises in the top 20 (on Coinmarketcap.com), the price of ETH BTC ADA have given good performances/positive responses (With this I will start adding screenshots at the end of each week for timestamp purposes). This may be a combination from Binance, Mastercard, Paypal, Grayscale investments, VISA AND the DEFI sector. Let me explain... Last week we read about Binance integrating with the company Swipe (SXP) to issue there own debit card expanding the use and reach of cryptocurrency to 31 countries within Europe. Binance's Q2 scheduled token burn of $60.5 Million, this figure correlates with its exchange, margin and futures trading platforms where approximately 20% of profits get burned to increase the price of BNB token (careful as the price has been steady after the burn). This week we find out Mastercard's expansion into the Cryptosphere as they expand and integrate with the Wirex team to issue a Mastercard-backed Bitcoin debit card, thus further extending the reach of cryptocurrency availability internationally. "The cryptocurrency market continues to mature and Mastercard is driving it forward, creating safe and secure experiences for consumers and businesses in today’s digital economy " "...Our work with Wirex and the wider crypto ecosystem is accelerating innovation and empowering consumers with more choice in the way they pay" Mastercard is also reaching out to other emerging cryptocurrency firms to apply to become principal members [Partners] with Mastercard as they have relaxed their digital assets program and look to expand into the Digital Assets and Blockchain environment. Paypals expression of interest in cryptocurrency facilitiation may bear fruits as it is said Paypal has partnered up with stablecoin operator Paxos (who is already in partnership with Revolut in the US) to facilitate trading through a cryptocurrency brokerage which will enable other firms to integrate cryptocurrency trading functionalities with them. In my opinion this looks much more promising than the Libra association they pulled out from last October as regulations. Grayscale Investments clears regulatory hurdle as they have been given the green light for its Bitcoin Cash Trust (BCHG) and Litecoin Trust (LTCN) to be quoted in over-the-counter (OTC) markets by US Financial Industry Regulatory Authority (FINRA). “The Trusts are open-ended trusts sponsored by Grayscale and are intended to enable exposure to the price movement of the Trusts’ underlying assets through a traditional investment vehicle, avoiding the challenges of buying, storing, and safekeeping digital Bitcoin Cash or Litecoin directly.” More green lights for Cryptocurrency in the US as regulators allow banks to provide cryptocurrency custody services (which may go further than just custody services). A little bit strange as it seems unnecessary and undermines one of the key factors and uses of cryptocurrency which is to be in complete control of your own finances... On another outlook this may be bullish as it allows US banks to provide banking services directly to lawful cryptocurrency businesses and show support for Bitcoin. Visa shows support stating they have a roadmap for their further expansion into the Crypto sphere. Already working with Crypto platform Coinbase and Fold they have stated they recognise the role of digital assets in the future of money. To be frank, it appears to be focused on stable coins, cost effectiveness and transaction speeds. However they are expanding their support for crypto assets. AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, DeFI! Our very own growing section in crypto. Just like the 2017 ICO boom we are seeing exorbitant growth and FOMO into the Decentralised Finance sector (WBTC, Stablecoins, Yield farming, DEXs etc). The amount of active addresses on Ethereum has doubled but with the FOMO on their network have sky rocketed their fees! Large use-cases of stable coins such as USDT ($6B in circulation using ERC-20 standard), DAI, TUSD, and PAX. $114M Wrapped Bitcoin (WBTC) on their network acts as a fluid side chain for Bitcoin and DEX trade volume has touched $1.6B this month. With all this action happening on Ethereum I saw the 24HR volume surpass BTC briefly on Worldcoinindex.com In other news, Bitcoin has been set as a new precedent in a US federal court in a case against Larry Dean Harmon, the operator of an underground trading platform Helix. Bitcoin has now legally been ruled as a form of money. “After examination of the relevant statutes, case law, and other sources, the Court concludes that bitcoin is money under the MTA and that Helix, as described in the indictment, was an `unlicensed money transmitting business´ under applicable federal law.” Quick news in China/Asia as floods threaten miners and the most dominant ASIC Bitcoin mining rig manufacturer Bitmain loses 10,000 Antminers worth millions alledgedly goes missing or "illegally transfered" with ongoing leadership dispute between cofounders. Last but not least, Cardano (ADA) upgrade Shelley is ready to launch! Hardfork is initiated as final countdown clock is switched on. At time of writing the point of no return has been reached, stress tests done and confirmation Hardfork is coming 29/07 The Shelley Mainnet upgrade is a step toward fast, capable and decentralised crypto that can serve billions of people. With the Shelley Mainnet is ADA staking rewards and pools! Here is a chance for us Gravychainers to set up a small pool of our own. Small percentage of profits going into the development of the community, and you keep the rest! If you read all of my ramblings thanks heaps! I appreciate it! I have added an extra piece of reading called speculation. Most you can speculate on by just reading the headline some others have more depth to them. Another post next week for a weekly round up! Where do you think the market is going? What is in your portfolio? Let us know in the Gravychain Discord Channel See you soon!
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P.S. Dr Seuss collectables on the blockchain HECK YEAH! and Bitcoin enters NASCAR, remember when Doge did this? it was like when Doge was trending on TikTok. ... Oh yeah did I also mention Steve Wozniak is suing Youtube, Google over rampant Bitcoin scams. Wait, what? Sydney based law firm JPB Liberty is suing Google, Facebook and Twitter for up to $300B. Just another day in the Cryptosphere.
09-24 21:43 - 'This rollercoaster is quick' (self.Bitcoin) by /u/sayahh22 removed from /r/Bitcoin within 9-19min
''' Huge activity today huh? Let’s run down and see what has happened recently and try to connect the dots.... 1.Bakkt launch 2.Binance.US launch 3. Trump’s Speech at the UN 4. Black Friday sell off of Nov 18’ Okay so...
Institutional money player, can’t expect those big money guys to show cards at 10k right? 8100 seems fair to the whales.
Hiccup this morning with the launch but seemed to get on board. Scared people? But anyways another institution.
My man is running his mouth and every time he says something nutty crypto bugs the heck out.
I see similar patterns to that period compared to what we’re going through now. Last time we had a sale, we shot to 14k within months. May-June 18’? #HODL
Hi everyone I'm 20 years old when I first starting getting into cryptocurrency last June. I started off with Coinbase and purchased my first Bitcoin worth $10. $40 into Etherum and $20 in Litecoin. 5 months later my bitcoin was worth $70, Etherum $200 and Litecoin was $170. I took all those profits and set up a Binance account for the first tie. I've never seen so much different variations in coins, so the first thing I did was research what the heck are these coins. The first coin I bought was Tronix which was 4 cents at that time. I owned about 4.2k Tronix. My second purchase was Ripple and I bought it at $1.24 at that time. I own 145 XRP before it all went up. Next thing you know Tronix hit 28 cents max and XRP was about $3.26 ATH. My investment turned to 1.5k. But as you know everything dipped.. but I didn't care because I have patience and don't really care if I lose money. I sold XRP and bought 25 WTC with it and I also expanded my portfolio. Now its just about time and see what happens next. But I can't believe my initial investment of $70 turned into the thousands. Anything is possible if you put your mind into it and really do your research. Thanks
Just what the title says. I am in Canada and trade Bitcoin and Litecoin on Quadriga. I know (am pretty sure?) that you can't get fiat from a Binance wallet. My guess is that I turn my Ripple into one of the other two I own/trade, send it to my Quadriga wallet then sell and withdraw my $. Does that sound right? Also, not a question just a comment... trying to figure out whether it would be better to convert to Bitcoin or Litecoin is confusing the heck out of me. I'm trying to learn two very difficult subjects at once. The world of trading and the world of crypto. If anyone has any pointers, I'm all ears and very thankful.
[uncensored-r/CryptoCurrency] XRB is hyped up vapourware and will never work as advertised. Don't buy into the pump scheme.. if...
The following post by ethswagholder is being replicated because some comments within the post(but not the post itself) have been openly removed. The original post can be found(in censored form) at this link: np.reddit.com/ CryptoCurrency/comments/7qbixo The original post's content was as follows:
XRB rai blocks has massive issues which will never get resolved. The developers have been making promises to resolve these node/exchange issues for almost a year now. The latest promise is that "it will be resolved early next week" but anyone who isn't blind to the obvious facts can wager that it will definitely not get resolved. This is the XRB cryptopia de-listing message, which also talks about these sync issues. This was almost a year back. The XRB shills want to pretend the cryptopia delisting was only due to death threats from third world captcha farmers, but the issues were simply because the coin has huge issues even back then. The Cryptopia node simply kept crashing and for days the coins were not accessible. The wallet on cryptopia exchange site said frozen for several days, and suddenly one day they would enable deposits and withdrawals, but in a couple of hours it would go down again. This kept happening time and again... people sent their coins to cryptopia, but they never arrived in the wallets. Withdrawals, same story, disabled. They tried reaching Cryptopia support who in their capacity also tried to fix this issue and get the wallets running, but again it would go down in next to no time. Rise and repeat. People were waiting for the withdrawals and deposits for weeks on end, and after a while even they got fed up with the lack of support. Then naturally, the blame game started and the accusations fell on Cryptopia. And ofcourse, some people reacted badly with death threats etc.. Cryptopia talks about of all these problems including death threats and network issues in their delisting message. It is not down only to "Death threats", but a chain of events culminating in the threats... Now fast forward 8-9 months since then, and what do you have? All exchanges are still not working. Bit Grail owner publicly stated he is being insulted, called a scammer, and he was given the twitter abuse by the community too, when all he did was say the truth that there are HUGE issues which are outside both his and developers control... Merca tox is down for god knows how many days, there is constant reports that Mercatox has scammed, pursue legal action, etc. At this point, from abuse and legal threats, to death threats... it is not a giant leap.. especially when people believe they are losing money. There is a major issue with the coin. It cannot be resolved in a suitable manner that will enable smooth functioning of exchanges. No exchange will be able to run seamlessly like they are supposed to, because of severe limitations of the network and nodes. When there is small 100k volume, this is not a problem, when the volume scales, this will always result in huge back log of support tickets, deposits not working, withdrawals not working, blame game, finally legal threats... the cycle goes on.. There was a full cycle of these threats with Cryptopia and now very close to the legal/death threat phase of Merca tox and Bit Grail. If you read the XRB subs/twitter, many are abusing the owners of Bit Grail, someone wanted to visit Bit Grail office. They want to "sue" Merca Tox The "great" community.. even that can turn bad in no time, when money is involved.. You can never predict what people will do when they are waiting for several weeks for their coins. Its almost preposterous to think it would be any other way, but heck, coin went on KuCoin and same outcome. Surprise surprise. Notice how it is always blamed on the "shitty" exchanges alone by XRB shills. The same issues with Rai Exchange as well. Today Rai Exchange actually posted that "they have troubles integrating Litecoin"Source.. Hahaha ... If they can't integrate Litecoin, how the bloody hell will they integrate XRB the exchange killer? It is obvious the whole episode this is nothing but an elaborate scheme played to pump the coin from #200 in CMC to #15... Anyone thinking Binance the biggest exchange is gonna touch this toxic coin is out of his mind. It won the vote, but actually listing it is a different matter altogether. Adding such a crappy coin will harm Binance's reputation; especially after seeing KuCoin suffer. Even if they actually list it, and the same issues happens once again, it will be obvious to everyone that there is huge flaws in the system. The whitepaper and technology is great, but if implementation is impossible then there is no hope. The value will come tumbling down. These issues were brought to the developers as early as March 2017. They cannot be fixed unless there are serious changes made to the concept of raiblocks. If there is no solution, all investors may be sitting on highly combustible vapour. You need to understand the history of this issue and for how long it has been happening, and can't simply brush it aside crucial issues unsolved for almost a year now as "third world death threats"... or exchange issues which "will be resolved". If the developers were smart they will be on an island sipping their cocktails after the massive pump. No one has ever seen the lead developer, apart from his Linked In profile. He has never done any interview or even a video, outside of reddit AMAs. There is no reason to believe they have not pulled a Joost with their money (worth approx. $100m) after a successful hype driven pump campaign, instead of working on issues that cannot be resolved. Right now the coin has little bit of value left, if you are smart with your investments, you will know what to do.. If you can actually deposit that into an exchange, that is... If anyone tries informing their echo chamber subs about these issues, the posts get deleted faster than this coin's transaction times. Abuses get hurled along with the customary "Thxn, just bought more" Lol.. Those echo chambers actually believe this coin will "replace Bitcoin". They fail to realise that hundreds of coins have come and gone trying to replace bitcoin (each with a different tricky idea) while Bitcoin has not moved an inch from the top spot. This one and its toxic community of shills will learn a hard lesson not to buy every random reddit pumped coin especially when everyone else has done accumulating it.
Hi, I am new to using Coinbase and I bought 150€ worth of ETH using my credit card, and sent them over to Binance but I don't understand the values displayed by Coinbase at all. I understand that there is a buying fee of 1€ (Coinbase) and another 3.99% fee for using credit card as payment methode. First of all what I don't undertand is (see picture 1) why the subtotal is 145,37€. I absolutely can't wrap my head around this number. Can someone explain the math behind it? Coinbase states in their FAQ:
Buying Digital Currency **Fees are added to the amount entered to arrive at the total for the order. For example, if you enter $100 USD as the amount of BTC to buy, and the fee is 1.49%, your total will be $101.49. That total will be charged to your payment method and you will receive $100 worth of BTC.
So according to what I've learned in math class my total amount of Euros payed via CC was 150€. 3.99% of 150€ are: 150€ x 0.0399 = 5.985€ Adding one Euro Coinbase fee: 5.985€ + 1€ = 6.985€ So 6.985€ in fees total. Shouldn't the subtotal be like 150€ and the total charged to my CC be 156.985€? I just checked with my bank account and the amount charged was 150€ total. I don't get it. This contradicts their FAQ. Next thing is: What the heck are these (see picture 2 and picture 3) numbers?? Minus 136.23€??? What? One more weird thing is, if I change the language to German (my native language, I changed it to English for the screenshots above) it states that I bought Bitcoins in my ETH and LTC Wallet??? (see picture 4 and picture 5) Did I pay the horrendous Bitcoin transaction fees, even though I paid special attention that I used ETH and LTC wallets to buy ETH and LTC in the first place on CB? Sorry I am totally lost. Can someone explain what happend? Am I just being retarded or is there something wrong?
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